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Maybe it's not do we believe or don't we believe, but how much helplessness society wishes to tolerate. Shell shock, which became a thing after WWI, resulted in the spontaneous establishment of field hospitals with hundreds of individuals manifesting the "condition". Finally, someone in command insisted that this was not something the services were prepared to indulge to this extent and all the tents were folded and the field hospitals were shut down. While there is certainly a spectrum of severity in terms of such conditions, life is difficult, bad things happen to all of us, and we either learn to cope better or decide to give in expecting less of ourselves. We may need help recognizing we can learn ways to moderate the risk of recurrence and to be more realistic about any potential of recurrence of the horrific event, but often the individuals most vulnerable to avoidance and dissociation have many antecedent experiences which have occurred for which they are already poorly dealing with and find their suboptimal coping mechanisms at the tipping point of collapsing. Such individuals will require more psychotherapy to address entrenched thoughts about themselves and life's risks before they can resume effective functioning.

❤ I have both books and I’m part of the inner circle, however, very discreetly because it’s difficult with my timing from Europe and my own agendas, and I just had a two day workshop with Michael Mokrus …. I have to say that the NARM approach, our method is to my experience, study and research along my whole life, such an inclusive Heartful, non-pathologizing and non-judgmental approach , as it is putting accent on curiosity and looking at the humans, we are with the understanding that our story created survival states/distortion/Iidentification …. I found it very complete, and I’m sure it will still evolve, and I really liked the part of respecting what people have at heart (talking about the soul, talking about spirit, talking about whatever is important for the one) and that is often indeed, talked down or poorly and judgmentally by many people from many different venues. This is something I really appreciate with you guys also in this interview thank you so much for this. ❤

What an important conversation! Thank you for sharing it and daring to explore and talk about this issue! I too felt nervous about the prospective of sharing it with some of my friends who are maybe Muslims as there is this confusion about racism and Islamophobia and abuse. I also feel how it resonate in me about trauma in families and how it is difficult to speak about it with other members, how they will feel the need to protect the group even if it means denying the trauma one of the member has encountered, it means they can deny their own vulnerability and own trauma eventually too….

❤ what a beautiful conversation thank you so much and was an important field and theme ❤

Great interview, Nancy is a wealth of knowledge

Great information, thank you….have learned so much from Dr Nae💗

In eft they use the line of questioning, if you didn't use (denfense) what would happen? And then? And then? And then? And the final answer is usually I'd be alone/abandoned/rejected.

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I think its really unkind and inappropriate for folks to comment about the interviewers voice.. did find it odd that she didnt seem to have heard about drama triangle (plus) roles , but perhaps that was an effort to give the audience a way in. Separatley.. i do think, regarding the non responsive bystander role, that while projectice, clients are often projecting past mental heath providers , as well as or instead of the original bystander in their family

23:00 there was a lot of, This is what X disorder looks like, and there wasnt a lot of mention of trauma, like, Yea, these are people who are messed up, who have mental illness, not These are people who are in pain, because they are responding appropriately to traumatic experiences. 🤜🏽🤛🏽 There's no disorder.

Excellent interview. His point that there is a glut of therapists and that access isn't the real issue sounds spot on. Indeed, the real issue is the lack of meaningful psychotherapy available. The good clinicians I know really are booked up. Also, patients should be educated about something else: professional fees tend to be positively correlated with the quality of services. Thus, patients who "value shop" for a therapist are making a big mistake. Fees, as long as they are usual and customary, should be the patient's last consideration. For example, would they also prefer the cheapest surgeon available if they went into hospital - good luck with that.

Love Jac❤🙏sooo moving

Thank you both.This was very helpful and I learned lots.I am reassured to hear from such a combined trustworthy source that trusting our gut instinct is still ,in 2024 a solid way to go. Thanks again.

Amazing conversation! What I appreciate the most is how much Nancy has of a human to human approach.

great writer on psychotherapy techniques and assessment. sad to see her defend a completely bogus condition like DID

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Such a lovely interview on such a profound theme, thank you for this!

Another beautiful dialogue !

29:03 How (the academic paradigm is taking over the human process with insufficient respect for clinicians accumulated experience) Now add to that the pharmacological industry influence in academia and you have a perfect storm. Is it any wonder why patient/clients lack trust in a system with narcissistic proclivities. Silos to be removed! Great conversation. Thank you, 😊💪👍

Amazing lady, Thank you for your groundbreaking work Dr Bloom

Marvelous conversation ❤! Thank you for sharing this 😊

People with vocal fry and affectation don’t make great interviewers. Nancy McWilliams is a gift

Thank you so much. I am late diagnosed autistic female with undiagnosed CPTSD from UK. This was really insightful and helpful.

Wow!🙏

I just got a bunch of comments on my channel, very clearly fake, all pointing to nancy williams. Be warey of anyone who buys your attention

This is the future. This is a meditation. We're here. Mental freedom.

Thank you for this beautiful interview, that oozes with wisdom, intelligence and compassion. Such a different approach to Sam Vaknin, the alleged expert on Narcissism and psychopathy, who professes the extinction of these groups.

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DID may be true in the severely traumatised. The issue is that we often see it in those with no trauma or minimal trauma history, and that's why there is doubt over the likelihood of minimal trauma causing such an extreme reaction, or 'DID'.

The interviewer comes off as a bit un-authentic at times, just her prosody and use of counselling lingo platitudes. Whereas Nancy appers totally authentic and uses very different language...

So good...

I missed yesterday's online webinar. How can I get the playback?

Do keep in mind that Life Coaching has elbowed out psychotherapy. Life Coaching is Olympic training meets psyche.

i've been going on a James Coan rabbit hole and am quite enjoying it

Such a great therapist.

The more I listen to Gabor, the less I find his ideas appealing.

Shedler is the man!!

So important and comforting. Please keep doing this to keep us updated. Thank you for atressing our ned for prayers, that is what will save us.

How I wish this guy was my supervisor but his rates are unaffordable for me. He's worth every penny from the consultations I have been able to witness.

😉 'promosm'

Amazing conversation, thank you for this talk. I appreciate Jac bringing light to spiritual teachers needing to address trauma, and not discounting these human experiences. I'm interested to see what comes next from Jac and the Association for Spiritual Integrity.

Nancy saved my life no more psychosis lifetime of neurosis Best donates gallons of blood remakable Thank you Nancy you look the same ahhh stability felt you had most stable person I ever met Thank You

Beautiful

In your new book I found only one mention of emotional flashback and two of hypervigilance. Why? Those are prominent in Pete Walker books.

In your new book I found only one mention of emotional flashback and two of hypervigilance. Why? Those are prominent in Pete Walker books.

Love Jac. I have experienced her spiritual integrity and she really helped me at a difficult time. Saved to watch.

thank you

thank you

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